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earlier this week, treasury secretary timothy geithner says the obama administration is more than willing to let america go right over the fiscal cliff. and he will not budge on the president's demands to raise taxes on the top income earners. >> if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely, an agreement doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2%, only 2%, and all of those americans get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> well, what if the obama administration lets it happen? what happens to the average american family. joining us here, is congressman randy forbes, nice to have you on the show. >> thank you, governor. >> let me ask you something, do you feel that the president actually wants it to happen so it gives him some political advantage? >> well, governor, i just have to judge that by two things, first of all, what i'm hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side and told me as late as last week, they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we've argued all along they'll
earlier this week, treasury secretary timothy geithner says the obama administration is more than willing to let america go right over the fiscal cliff. and he will not budge on the president's demands to raise taxes on the top income earners. >> if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely, an agreement doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2%, only 2%, and all of those americans get a tax cut on the...
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and critics of the obama administration warn that setting such a high bar to greater u.s. involvement in that conflict, namely the waging of chemical war by a nation against its own citizenry could be sending the assad regime the wrong message. >> it sort of suggests or implies that anything up to this red line we're not going to take action. and i think it will be disheartening for that reason to the syrian opposition because as we said, shep, 40,000 people have been killed and i think they will will look at this and say, well, you know, how many more people would need to be killed before the international community decides to take action putting aside the question of the chemical weapons. >> now, the fighting in syria has gotten so bad that the united nations announced today it is withdrawing all of its nonessential personnel. about 25 of the remaining 100 u.n. staff who are still in the country expected to be out by week's end, shep. >> shepard: james rosen at the state department. north korea is at it again. set to launch a wrong rage rocket within days, second of the
and critics of the obama administration warn that setting such a high bar to greater u.s. involvement in that conflict, namely the waging of chemical war by a nation against its own citizenry could be sending the assad regime the wrong message. >> it sort of suggests or implies that anything up to this red line we're not going to take action. and i think it will be disheartening for that reason to the syrian opposition because as we said, shep, 40,000 people have been killed and i think...
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it's based on that raid that killed osama bin laden and some charge the obama administration gave the film's producer certain access. barbara starr will be with us about that. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. >>> we begin with breaking news. new signs tonight the syrian government could be preparing to do the unthinkable, unleash chemical weapons on its own people. the united states has new intelligence suggesting syrian forces now mixing the ingredients used to make deadly serin gas. a serious civil war has progressed. the obama administration has repeatedly warned even just moving chemical weapons would be a red line that could draw a swift response. just hours ago, president obama directly addressing the assad regime about this latest intelligence. >> today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable, and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> the world of course has been watc
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in place and also the mental gymnastics of people who are defending the obama administration say well he didn't he never wanted it he you know he was he didn't want to pass it it's like well his shirt is held trying really really hard to uphold this clause of indefinite detention he's threatening to veto this current version of the bill why do you think the white house has been fighting so hard do you think there's a possibility that american citizens are already being held in detention indefinitely here. you know i think that's a that's a tough question i don't know if american citizens are but this is what i will tell you i think is happening i think that the u.s. government has long claimed incredibly over garage possibly illegally overbroad powers under the operation for use of military force acts and i think that both bush and obama administrations have been using that so overall the personae years and what the end was was a sneaky attempt at a legislative retroactive thanks to those two narrow powers that really well explains the incredible disingenuous ness and deceitful ness o
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the obama administration has repeatedly warned even just moving chemical weapons would be a red line that could draw a swift response. just hours ago, president obama directly addressing the assad regime about this latest intelligence. >> today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable, and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> the world of course has been watching in horror at the atrocities committed by the syrian government. that's why this fear of chemical weapons is so real tonight. we want to show you new video posted on youtube reportedly showing families just after their neighborhood became the target of a regime rocket attack. like so much video out of syria, cnn cannot independently confirm its authenticity. [ shouting in a foreign language ] [ shouting in a foreign language ] >> you can see the sheer terror for those families, especially the young children, and it's important
the obama administration has repeatedly warned even just moving chemical weapons would be a red line that could draw a swift response. just hours ago, president obama directly addressing the assad regime about this latest intelligence. >> today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable, and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences...
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new reports this morning the obama administration might sue the state. recently passed initiatives decriminalized the recreational use of pot. but it is still illegal under federal law. options for the administration include preventing the states from regulating and taxing marijuana or cutting off federal cash. a new jersey town acting like the grinch trying to tear down one man's christmas spirit. the fight is over this 400-foot inflatable santa. the owner of seasonal world says there is no ordinance but he has been issued five tickets ordering him to take it down. the mayor calling it a hazard because it could blow over. >> what i do every year and i have been doing it for 12 years and they have been basically harassing me for 12 years. >> the owner of seasonal world says he has no intention of moving santa and he will take the battle to court after christmas. a fireworks display in burma goes terribly wrong when explosions go off into the crowd. [screams] >> you can hear the screams. this is a festival and hot air balloons were filled were fireworks.
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attorney or it's a trial balloon from the obama administration. and i think more likely, it's a trial balloon. because obama himself has said, look, i'm the president, but i can't legalize marijuana, because congress has outlawed it. either way, it is a trial balloon in the sense that it's going to have a chilling effect on the evolution of the industry in washington. the governor of the state, the regulators, when they get together to hash out the structure of the market, they are conspiring to break federal law. they're committing a crime. >> right. so how is that going to play out? in both these states, you have, you know, basically the law says they're going to have legalized marijuana growth and distribution and regulate it. can any of that even take place, unless there is some resolution from the federal government about how they're going to treat it? >> i think the state's going to move forward and wait to hear. they can't expect any resolution before they move forward. they have one year to do something that no one has ever done, create th
attorney or it's a trial balloon from the obama administration. and i think more likely, it's a trial balloon. because obama himself has said, look, i'm the president, but i can't legalize marijuana, because congress has outlawed it. either way, it is a trial balloon in the sense that it's going to have a chilling effect on the evolution of the industry in washington. the governor of the state, the regulators, when they get together to hash out the structure of the market, they are conspiring...
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the obama administration skated the plan to put black boxes in every new car. this is an invasion of privacy, and fox news legal analysts says it is 100% legal. mercedes, to their point, administration's point would ascertain the reason hind an accident and if we had this with the toyota cars, the brakes going, going off cliffs, whatever was going on, we could have resolved it legally long beforehand; right? >> what a great idea. so maay individuals either use the cars inappropriately, speeding down the road, breaking, not paying attention, didn't belt in, and suddenly, there's something that records all of that activity that can say, wait a minute, it's not the product. it's the manner in which the product was used. it's going to save lotsf money for the corporations who create the cars, two, it can provide insight as to whether there's criminality. someone speeding down the road at 120-130 miles per hour -- neil: that's the creepy part to me. >> 100% big brother, monitor everything you do, every road you're on, every place you're at, whether you have your sea
the obama administration skated the plan to put black boxes in every new car. this is an invasion of privacy, and fox news legal analysts says it is 100% legal. mercedes, to their point, administration's point would ascertain the reason hind an accident and if we had this with the toyota cars, the brakes going, going off cliffs, whatever was going on, we could have resolved it legally long beforehand; right? >> what a great idea. so maay individuals either use the cars inappropriately,...
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which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going, the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one steel alone just isn't in the cards. doggone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of the dumbest votes the republicans have ever cast in the history of the senate. we'll talk about the big win and the emotional reaction from moderates. that's next. suddenly, she does something unexpected and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell
which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going, the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one steel alone just isn't in the cards. doggone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be...
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which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of the dumbest votes the republicans have ever cast in the history of the senate. we'll talk about the big win and the emotional reaction from moderates. that's next. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm h
which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of...
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administration got belarus to give up their highly enriched uranium too. their stockpile of the material was taken away and secured by the united states. the guy in kaz sack stand, the guy who named a national holiday in his own honor, he agreed to give up a portion of his country's highly-enriched uranium and all the risk that goes with it. it's remarkable that coup tries that used to be part of a soviet union, these countries agreed to give up their nuclear weapons and that they also agreed to give up material used to make nuclear weapons. so while there are a lot of things to worry about with belarus, we can worry a little less about their stockpile because they let us lock some of it up. american policy that makes this a priority is now more than 20 years old. it goes back to 1992. it's the cooperative threat reduction program. it's named after the senator sam nun and richard lugar. this is one of the things that our government does. you may remember me wearing a funny outfit when we traveled to mexico while they were giving up the last of their jury r
administration got belarus to give up their highly enriched uranium too. their stockpile of the material was taken away and secured by the united states. the guy in kaz sack stand, the guy who named a national holiday in his own honor, he agreed to give up a portion of his country's highly-enriched uranium and all the risk that goes with it. it's remarkable that coup tries that used to be part of a soviet union, these countries agreed to give up their nuclear weapons and that they also agreed...
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administration has warned could trigger military intervention. >> worst-case scenarios are threatening to become reality. >> it's to the going to be a clean outcome. in the best of circumstances. now it will be chaotic and messy. >> the u.s. is helping to organize the opposition's military command and later this week is expected to officially recognize its political leadership. what impact that has on the outcome of the civil war remains to be seen. >> david martin, thank you. in egypt the concession offered late yesterday by president mohammed morsi has failed to satisfy hits opponents. and tonight the regime appears to be preparing for the long haul. allen pizzey is in cairo. >> in a scene of chaotic as the country's politics, egypt's main opposition group its tonight rejected the constitution drawn up by the government, along with a referendum on it scheduled for next week en. in doing so they also said no to a form of compromise offered by president mohammed morsi who late last night rescinded a decree giving him unlited powers. morsi immediately issued a new decree that does of th
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i think the obama administration, the justice department are trying to figure it out because what happened on election day was in washington and colorado it became the first two states in the country and actually the first two political jurisdictions anywhere in the world to decide to legally regulate marijuana like alcohol, so the feds have to figure this out. >> a little like alcohol. i can buy as many bottles of beer as i want. i can only have an ounce of marijuana in washington and in colorado, right? >> that's right. it's important to say, by the way, that what's going to happen this week in washington state and next month in colorado is just going to make it legal to possess up to an ounce in the privacy of your home. you can't go out smoking in public, all this sort of thing. the part -- >> you have to stay in your home really? >> yes. washington is going to be private. not puffing down the street. this is going to be fairly subtle. the part of the laws that say that washington and colorado state governments should set up a legal regulatory system like with alcohol, those don't ente
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. >> greta: wouldn't you expect that the obama administration would be talking to assad, maybe through some other country, some other means, to find a place, an exit strategy for him right now so he doesn't release the chemical weapons and make some sort of way to at least plan how to take -- how to secure them? >> well, again, if you believe some of the things people are saying about the russian role, they may well be trying to convince him to leave, but there's a real problem here because one thing he and others in his regime would insist on is to be immune from prosecution for various human rights violations, crimes against humanity. very hard to get that kind of immunity. >> greta: i thought we did that all the time. we have historically. i mean, some of these bad people have gotten safe haven places. >> we're in a different environment now, unfortunately, and what it means is in the case of gaddafhi, they might as well go down with their boots on. if the choice is dying fighting for themselves or be convicted by the international criminal court, every incentive is to stay in power
. >> greta: wouldn't you expect that the obama administration would be talking to assad, maybe through some other country, some other means, to find a place, an exit strategy for him right now so he doesn't release the chemical weapons and make some sort of way to at least plan how to take -- how to secure them? >> well, again, if you believe some of the things people are saying about the russian role, they may well be trying to convince him to leave, but there's a real problem here...
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even if they are the victims of the attempt of the obama administration, correctly, to try to you know force the republicans to play ball on their terms, reality is, the collateral damage done to the poor in the meantime is so devastating, because the margin of reserve for those middle class, even compared to the poor is more significant than when you're making a dollar that you talked about and you've got go there -- i was on food stamps for three years i understand what it means to be on food stamps. most people are on welfare for two years or less, they use it as a stopgap measure. most people do not pimp the system. the perception is they pimp the system. you ain't doing much pimping on food stamps. about your a low rent pimp if you're on food stamps. >> alex? >> go ahead. >> reporter: i understand michael's point but i think he's giving obama -- underselling obama's effectiveness so far a little bit. obama doesn't talk a lot about the poor but in the negotiations, especialfully 2010, the president, his team, gene sperling and others were effective in protecting poor people's progr
even if they are the victims of the attempt of the obama administration, correctly, to try to you know force the republicans to play ball on their terms, reality is, the collateral damage done to the poor in the meantime is so devastating, because the margin of reserve for those middle class, even compared to the poor is more significant than when you're making a dollar that you talked about and you've got go there -- i was on food stamps for three years i understand what it means to be on food...
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the obama administration says, no. the sessions are a sham. they last less than a minute. the congress or the senate when it decided to do this passed an order saying that no business would be conducted during these pro forma sessions. what are more do you need? the senate says we'll decide whether we're in recess or not and we say we're not, and not only that in the early part of the recess from december of last year to january of this year, the senate actually passed an extension to the payroll tax cut. so is the senate in recess or not? and this is it either going to go to the supreme court, chuck, or the courts are going to say, you know what, we can't -- this is a dispute between the political branches. you guys work it out. i don't think it's 100% clear whether the courts will decide they can decide this question. >> that seems odd. i want to throw up a graphic. obama has actually done fewer, 32. he had fewer opportunities. bush 43 did 99. clinton 95 of them. isn't this destined for the supreme court? if you have the legislative branch and the executive branch disagr
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longer term, tim pact will weigh on the obama administration if the economy doesn't recover. >> all right. many thanks, scott rasmussen, appreciate it very much. >> thanks. >>> with just 26 days until we fall off the tax and fiscal cliff, two dozen house republicans have apparently defected from the boehner plan and signed a bipartisan letter with democrats. people are now asking is there a fallback position for the gop? well, here now to tell us is house majority whip california republican kevin mccarthy, the number three man. mr. mccarthy, as always, thank you for coming back on the show. can i get your comment on this letter, two dozen republicans, they're talking about tax rate flexibility along with a bunch of democrats. what's your take, sir? >> well, remember what they're saying here. what they're saying is that they're going to put everything on to the table. what we've been talking about for so long is where the president has been awol, this is a spending issue that we have a real problem with. we agree that we'll provide revenue, but we do not want to hurt a pro growth economy h
longer term, tim pact will weigh on the obama administration if the economy doesn't recover. >> all right. many thanks, scott rasmussen, appreciate it very much. >> thanks. >>> with just 26 days until we fall off the tax and fiscal cliff, two dozen house republicans have apparently defected from the boehner plan and signed a bipartisan letter with democrats. people are now asking is there a fallback position for the gop? well, here now to tell us is house majority whip...
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joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an incredibly popular position. it's important for republicans to know that the white house is not going to accept any kind of a deal. that's the point he was trying to make. i think all the leverage now is with the democrats, with the president. the american public is on his side. i think it's important for the republicans not to think that they can just get any kind of deal out of him because if they do go over
joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a...
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stuart: is it possible for the obama administration to stop the trend or get in the way of it or block it in some way? you're former chairman of the national labor relations board. as i understand it, the president is stacking that national labor relations board with people on the left. would they be in a position to stop this right to work trend? >> no, they would not. the statute specifically gives the states the right to pass a right to work law. and i can't think of anything that members of the board could do to stop that. there was a little bit of an effort to do that with regard to boeing. but that was indirect and not direct. i don't think it would have been effective anyway. stuart: right, if i'm right, and i believe i am, that the prrsident is stacking the nlrb, what can they do, what do you expect them to do in this second term to enhance the union movement? >> you know, a variety of different things they can do. they can grant access to union agents to an employer's premises after a petition is filed. they could reverse existing board law and give employees the right to use
stuart: is it possible for the obama administration to stop the trend or get in the way of it or block it in some way? you're former chairman of the national labor relations board. as i understand it, the president is stacking that national labor relations board with people on the left. would they be in a position to stop this right to work trend? >> no, they would not. the statute specifically gives the states the right to pass a right to work law. and i can't think of anything that...
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is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many avenues to a victory right now but he's got a good escape, thomas. all john boehner has to do to exit out of this quickly is to say he won the election, we didn't, the american people in every survey say this is where we're
is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe...
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do you agree, sir, with the obama administration that chemical weapons are a red line and should be a red line? >> they are a perfectly reasonable red line, but they are only a red line if they are used. as of now there's no reporting, no information to the effect that they are being used against anyone, and it's hard to envisage how they could be used because if the resistance is scattered, sporadic, then how can you employ these weapons? it's not very likely to me, at least, that the regime will start poisoning itself, particularly in dmamascus which is a big city and which could be the object, but that would make absolutely no sense. >> is it simply too dangerous, do you think, for the u.s. to get involved in the region? i mean, you have iran, iraq, israel. they are all right there. >> i think the more serious issue which goes beyond the slightly hysterical hype is what sort of regime can be created in syria that is stable, and how do we avoid such fragmentation that the conflict in syria spills over into jordan and lebanon and conceivably also activates conflicts in iraq. this is
do you agree, sir, with the obama administration that chemical weapons are a red line and should be a red line? >> they are a perfectly reasonable red line, but they are only a red line if they are used. as of now there's no reporting, no information to the effect that they are being used against anyone, and it's hard to envisage how they could be used because if the resistance is scattered, sporadic, then how can you employ these weapons? it's not very likely to me, at least, that the...
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. >> getner says the obama administration is only too willing to go over the qulif. cliff. do they mean marginal rates, or just rates. >> that's what's going to be worked out, the last minute deal that's where you find wiggle room. >> i guarantee you there's guys in boehner's camp that are ready to go over, too. >> but he's been moving to marginalize those peel. this is his way of taking control of the party. >> the question is why do they care where the money comes from. if you have a revenue target, then fine. but we need $800 million in revenue. john wehner figured it out. and boehner can turn around and say i need $6 trillion in titlement cuts. and they can each take each other's playbook and try and figure out what they would like best to -- figure out the number and figure out how to get there. >> i don't know. both sides seem to be only too willing to do it. they're in the booking rove on fox because of that fiasco. which made good tv, but apparent apparently, i don't know, but he says republicans will get the blame for going off the cliff, but the president will be
. >> getner says the obama administration is only too willing to go over the qulif. cliff. do they mean marginal rates, or just rates. >> that's what's going to be worked out, the last minute deal that's where you find wiggle room. >> i guarantee you there's guys in boehner's camp that are ready to go over, too. >> but he's been moving to marginalize those peel. this is his way of taking control of the party. >> the question is why do they care where the money...
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and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall over a cliff over, isn't it? who care
and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american...
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as we mentioned treasury secretary said today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week, we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with the other political party in the past and still managing to come out with a deal. today, i spoke a short while ago with former senate majority leader trent lott, author of "herding cats: a life in politics." senator lott, you and senator mitchell wrote op-eds. diagnosing the dysfunction in washington and offering some solutions. you said one solution is to hold congress at hearings, marking up bills going on legislation. most americans would agree with that but be surprised to hear, i mean, that's their job. i think most of us, you know, would assume, isn't that their job description? >> well, the
as we mentioned treasury secretary said today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week, we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with...
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the obama administration says, agrees that law is unconstitutional. that law is now being defended by a lawyer hired by the republicans in the house of representatives. so that -- that is one case. the other case is the proposition 8 case in california. if you recall, california -- there was a referendum -- the california supreme court ruled that there had to be same sex marriage under the california constitution. gay people had the right to get married there for a brief period of time. then there was an initiative put on the ballot, proposition 8, california voted in a close election to overturn same sex marriage. same sex marriage was banned after it was briefly legal. the federal district court had a trial there, and said that law, proposition 8, banning same sex marriage, is unconstitutional. that was affirmed on appeal, that is now appealed to the supreme court and they will now decide whether proposition 8 is constitutional or not. >> when we talk about this as being a historical sort of review, clearly there were different laws passed at the st
the obama administration says, agrees that law is unconstitutional. that law is now being defended by a lawyer hired by the republicans in the house of representatives. so that -- that is one case. the other case is the proposition 8 case in california. if you recall, california -- there was a referendum -- the california supreme court ruled that there had to be same sex marriage under the california constitution. gay people had the right to get married there for a brief period of time. then...
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that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about this. why does not white house figure that these kinds of appearances are helpful when both sides positions are pretty well locked in already? >> because this president and this white house have concluded that public pressure is what will make republicans bargain with him and deal on his terms. after the private grand bargain negotiations in the summer of 2011, they concluded they weren't simply going to do it behind closed doors with republicans. president went out and campaigned. he hammered republicans beginning in the fall of 2011. he won the election and he was trying to keep the pressure on to
that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about this. why does not white house...
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., the obama administration, nato now obviously very concerned about the regime of president assad potentially using chemical weapons, poison gas against its own people. here's the question, what is the difference killing civilians in syria with bombs from jet fighters or attack helicopters as opposed to using say poison gas or chemical warfare? >> that's a good question. in one sense in moral terms, there is no difference and almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but i think the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fatalities would be very much greater. and it does cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any scientific way. but i think what your administration, the international community is signaling to president assad, if you cross that line, there will be a strong reaction. >> those are tough words coming from president obama, from secretary of state hillary clinton, from the nato secretary-general today in brussels. but is that enough to president bahar al assad from using chemical weapons or is there something else the international community s
., the obama administration, nato now obviously very concerned about the regime of president assad potentially using chemical weapons, poison gas against its own people. here's the question, what is the difference killing civilians in syria with bombs from jet fighters or attack helicopters as opposed to using say poison gas or chemical warfare? >> that's a good question. in one sense in moral terms, there is no difference and almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but i think...
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this guy is a key player in the obama administration. you know, there's lots of taj about coming back to wall street. he likes it down there, and he likes working there, and that he wants a higher position, and, you know -- >> down in wall street or washington? >> washington. washington's south; right? >> of here. >> wall street's south of here too. >> but down, down there. the meetings are about keeping people, i think, in line. we should point out that larry fink is on the treasury secretary short list. you know, i think this is jack lew's to lose, so to speak. that's what people say on wall street. if he's well in the budget negotiations, meaning, you know, basically, jamming most of the president's proposals down the republicans' throat, looks like he gets the job. that's where we are now. it's interesting watching wall street kiss up to the president on this. >> it is interesting. >> there is nobody, no economic perp i talked to who really thinks that this is the time to raise marginal taxes, even on the rich, the alleged rich, whic
this guy is a key player in the obama administration. you know, there's lots of taj about coming back to wall street. he likes it down there, and he likes working there, and that he wants a higher position, and, you know -- >> down in wall street or washington? >> washington. washington's south; right? >> of here. >> wall street's south of here too. >> but down, down there. the meetings are about keeping people, i think, in line. we should point out that larry fink...
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the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age, means testing, things like that. so then we have about $600 billion in essentially spending cuts, half from mandatory spending, half from discretionary spending. this is the other very interesting thing that's new. $200 billion from revising the consumer price index. that sounds very technical. but it has very real world consequences because it very much could affect the money, the checks that social security recipients in particular get every single month because it effectively changes inflation so it changes the formula from what they would get. >> significant differences between the white hous
the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age,...
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bill: you mentioned the obama administration. how are they reacting? was is our response? >> our response tends to look first to the yate united nation. there is talk of proportional sanctions being considered at the security council should north korea test. but it's clear that is not going to change the trajectory of north korea's per suit of a nuclear program. bill: steven yates, thank you. we are watching this, sometime we believe in the coming days to 10 days. here's martha. martha: $120 million to develop the next electric car battery. it's not an independent venture. you are paying for it. the u.s. taxpayer. we'll tell you about the government's latest gamble with your money. bill: one man' home survived superstorm sandy. but it did not make it through the recovery. >> the township didn't know what happened. i called the governor' office and she said to me, are you sure your house is gone? i said, miss, you miss place a pen or pencil, you don't miss place a house. ♪ i wish my patits could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of thesri
bill: you mentioned the obama administration. how are they reacting? was is our response? >> our response tends to look first to the yate united nation. there is talk of proportional sanctions being considered at the security council should north korea test. but it's clear that is not going to change the trajectory of north korea's per suit of a nuclear program. bill: steven yates, thank you. we are watching this, sometime we believe in the coming days to 10 days. here's martha. martha:...
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. >> with just 27 days to go, republicans are not talking with the obama administration and the president is only talking on tv. major garrett is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. yesterday at the white house there were vague references to conversations about the the fiscal cliff with congress iion republicans. i can confirm this morning through my sources here at the white house and on capitol hill that there were no substantive conversations or negotiations yesterday at all. no formal e-mails, to conversations, nothing. house speaker boehner's countdown led to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> three, two, one. >> reporter: but washington is counting down this month to the dark unknown of the fiscal cliff. >> thanks for having me. >> reporter: on his first view sbr interview on the fiscal cliff, he rejected john boehner's proposal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: raising taxes on households earning more than $250,000. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're
. >> with just 27 days to go, republicans are not talking with the obama administration and the president is only talking on tv. major garrett is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. yesterday at the white house there were vague references to conversations about the the fiscal cliff with congress iion republicans. i can confirm this morning through my sources here at the white house and on capitol hill that there were no substantive...
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we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the situation plays out and if president morsi chooses democracy or dictatorship. >> i spoke about that with a guest. >> you met with high officials at the state department, the u.s. still provides egypt with economic and military assistance, about $1.3 million a year. hundreds of millions in economic aide, did they race that issue with you? there was concern that if president morsi continues to move in that direction, the u.s. assistance could be in trouble. >> i think it's important for the united states than it is for egypt. it's mutual interest and mutual benefit. and the relationship is depending on the relationshi
we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the...